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    Fake Championship Winner?

    Hey Betty,
    it looks like that current Championship winner Ma13 had last fight vs GroundControl arranged (both players are from the same server).
    GroundControl assigned only 4 heroes to each fight and using this trick Ma13 could win the Championship (Ma13 earned more points from these easy fights).

    In my opinion I am not alone who bet on that fight. Is this behaviour ok? Is it fair vs other players who were trying to win the championship?

    Thnx for reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by general100 View Post
    Hey Betty,
    it looks like that current Championship winner Ma13 had last fight vs GroundControl arranged (both players are from the same server).
    GroundControl assigned only 4 heroes to each fight and using this trick Ma13 could win the Championship.

    In my opinion I am not alone who bet on that fight. Is this behaviour ok? Is it fair vs other players?

    Thnx for reply.
    I think as long as they are both fighting to that title and they are helping each other it is perfectly fine. They are guildmates and they can do what they want to . It isn t their fault that you betted on one of them this was just their strategy.
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    I want answer from Betty if it is ok to arrange fights in championship, you have nothing to do with it.
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    sorry off topic, but for whatever reason my game is bugged and my last bet is stuck on "in progress" and the logs dont show the last fight for me. Can you tell me who won the fight between Ma12 and ilhosong in the last round?

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    The fight between ihosong and ma12 never took place. Even on ihosong game, it shows fight never started.

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    Such stupid posts in his life seen !! Author or you yesterday was born, or really stupid people !!!! Although they would put to one hero, or do you think that this is a fight contract, it is their business !!!!!

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    rtn: it is still in progress, it looks like that battle was not fought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by general100 View Post
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    In my opinion I am not alone who bet on that fight. Is this behaviour ok? Is it fair vs other players who were trying to win the championship?

    Thnx for reply.
    Dear general, im sorry you lost your bet. Try to make a new one when next championship will begin. We cant tell our customers what they should to do in championships or tournaments. Is it fair that someone more powerful and friendly then others? I dont know. Ask Ember about it.

    Thanks for understanding, your Betty.

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    Ma had a shot at the title, GC did let him win that fight so Ma can gain more points. Is their business and strategy, i dont think you can argue anything about that if you bet on GC to beat Ma.
    Ma Vs ilsohong never took place because ilsohong migrated before the fight. So that match never started, for all the bets, probably need to ask ucool, ember, betty or support for a refund.

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    Throwing the match like this is wrong. Those that claim that it means nothing are just trying to justify a morally bad decision. If all that was on the line (in other words, no outside betting) was whatever rewards were granted for 1st, 2nd, whatever, no one would care.

    However, everyone on every server can bet on the outcome and with gems. Gems = real money. Now it's an issue. You can know how people view this by how pretty much any organization that implements betting would take action should a "thrown match" occur.

    Let's take some examples:

    Financial markets: Insider trading. Note that not just the participants, but also anyone either of them told could safely bet the max and know that they'd win. This is insider trading and in any country around the world, people go to jail for doing this (I used to be in investment banking). Don't you think that the 2 people above and everyone in their guild bet at least the minimum on the known winner? And that everyone else in the game had to guess?

    Sports - Boxing: probably the most famous of situations where one opponent "throws" the match specifically so people betting on the match take advantage, because they know the outcome ahead of time. In boxing, if it's proven that you threw the match, all bets are null and the people involved are banned from the sport.

    Casino - betting in general: Think of card games (blackjack for instance). Many people have tried to make money off casinos by knowing what cards are coming or knowing even a high probability of what cards are coming (counting cards). I'll leave it to your imagination as to what happens to card counters by the casinos.

    I can't think of a single situation where betting occurs and some people know the result (and thus can capitalize) ahead of time that the governing organization (uCool should be that org, here) doesn't take action or even is required to take action.

    By not taking action in this case, uCool is condoning this abuse and will lead those that are hurt by it to lose confidence in a non-rigged game. If you don't have confidence in the game, people don't bet/don't play.


    Note that I had no money on either of these players. Their perfidy didn't impact me at all. That doesn't change the fact that someone rigged the system for their benefit and to the detriment of all those people that didn't have their inside knowledge.

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    Even if the last fight had taken place and ilhosong had beaten ma, ma would have still been #1 because he pretty much got a free ride 7-0 win. This isn't fair for the integrity of the game, and such things had already happened in the past too. In football, even if the other clubs had nothing to play for (out of european contention/ already safe/relegated), you don't see them play their full reserve teams they play for the integrity of the game so that other clubs still in contention for something have a fair chance on them and this shows respect for others that are competing.

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    is been more than 36 hours, and i bet betty definitely read this post already
    however theres no comment or reply from her.
    probably just gonna ignore the post and nothing would be made

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    Dear Leader
    We will investigate the match and we will prevent it happening again. But before our production team makes the decision, we are not sure that we will punish these two players or not. Thanks.

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    There is no way to prevent two players discussing strategy and deciding amongst themselves whether one player will "throw" the match. You can't control that. Lol
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    Dear Leader
    It seems that GroundControl has already changed his in-game name. Our developer said that it's hard to track. But we already have Ma13's account id. Does any one know his new name please? Maybe he's already moved to another server.

    Best Regards
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