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    Quote Originally Posted by crip View Post
    Or there could be a "Market" feature in the shop (same as Hero Camp Market) to exchange the abundant coins between shops... like 1,000 Crusade coins = 10 or 100 GT coins etc.etc.
    Knowing ucool the ratio would be more absurd:

    10,000 crusade coins= 1 GT coin
    50,000 = 10 GT coins
    100,000= 50 GT coins

    That looks right up there alley.

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    I think you should add some gems to the transactions (like you know, 10 gems the two first transactions, then 100, then 200, and so on) and make it VIP 15 only, this way it would really be Ucool approved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uh123abcd View Post
    well first off i spent every single GT point i gained into heroes. so far i have a 4* sorc 3* ca and 3* chemist and thats all the GT points have gotten me. i have 280k crusade points 45k GA points 28k guild and 35k arena. im on server 105 which is somewhere in the middle of servers and im a non vip so my points should be considered low as compared to the high end players in early servers.

    now for ur points. spending GT points does not give u an advantage till the end of time. theres only a few there that even give u an advantage and even at my slow rate ill eventually max them all out. players that are 10 lvls lower than u will catch up as each lvl becomes increasing harder. vips used to be 10 lvls higher than me but now theyre only 3 lvls above me and i always fought them in top 50 as a non vip. well next point u already saw i have the points in shops and only got 2 3*s and 1 4* no where near having all the heroes at 4-5* like u stated.

    now for ur "buying spree", u think they just magically run out of coins... high vips have a monthly income of 200k crusade points. if red items got stuck in there they would be able to buy 15 full items a month and imbalance the game in a huge way. relic of hades is a 6k item they can practically buy 1 every single day and from 1 shop alone. u have no idea how much of an impact putting gear relevant to our lvls in those other shops would do to the game. everyone will have every hero 5*ed, every hero fully geared and then get bored and leave. itll be like playing a private server where they increase exp by 100x, those servers never last long as people get bored quick.
    Sorry for the late awnser, Talking to non-VIP is talking to a masochistic person anyway ;-)

    Im about the same situation as you pointlike. Im on a much older server, VIP9. Whats your all hero power? thats also interesting.
    I spend most of my points also on Sorc/CA and i don't have many GT coins at all.

    The point is, if they would have not stopped putting heroes in regular shops, the situation would have been the same as putting now 2 heroes in those shops. There is no interest (%) on collected coins. If they put 2 heroes in the arena shop... i can't buy them both, as a lot of people. The only shop that has a lot of points is Crusade. Still i don't see why it would be a problem if high levels with enough points can 5* a hero immediately... its not as if most 1*-4* heroes would be of any use at all. This SS business is something interesting for lower levels and new VIP heroes. The bottleneck is gearing them, you can't gear all of them... or you are a high VIP/top guild player. Why should all those barriers stay?

    Lower players won't catch up... it may seem you get closer as in levels, but the XP gap is still months.

    As for the buying spree... i never said to add red (100+) items, or giving them a price. I advocate to add the 'lower' gears (1-99) to gear up the second rate heroes for AHP.
    This whole problem wouldn't exist without Grand Tournament. This feature destroyed server balance and makes the gaps bigger and bigger. I agree that it is fun to battle between servers and guilds, but if you are not part of this elite, the gasm gets bigger and bigger without any form of hope to close it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rplxx View Post
    Sorry for the late awnser, Talking to non-VIP is talking to a masochistic person anyway ;-)

    Im about the same situation as you pointlike. Im on a much older server, VIP9. Whats your all hero power? thats also interesting.
    I spend most of my points also on Sorc/CA and i don't have many GT coins at all.

    The point is, if they would have not stopped putting heroes in regular shops, the situation would have been the same as putting now 2 heroes in those shops. There is no interest (%) on collected coins. If they put 2 heroes in the arena shop... i can't buy them both, as a lot of people. The only shop that has a lot of points is Crusade. Still i don't see why it would be a problem if high levels with enough points can 5* a hero immediately... its not as if most 1*-4* heroes would be of any use at all. This SS business is something interesting for lower levels and new VIP heroes. The bottleneck is gearing them, you can't gear all of them... or you are a high VIP/top guild player. Why should all those barriers stay?

    Lower players won't catch up... it may seem you get closer as in levels, but the XP gap is still months.

    As for the buying spree... i never said to add red (100+) items, or giving them a price. I advocate to add the 'lower' gears (1-99) to gear up the second rate heroes for AHP.
    This whole problem wouldn't exist without Grand Tournament. This feature destroyed server balance and makes the gaps bigger and bigger. I agree that it is fun to battle between servers and guilds, but if you are not part of this elite, the gasm gets bigger and bigger without any form of hope to close it.
    i totally agree with the GT part. im part of a good guild but definitely not in one where i ever made it to 1st or 2nd in GT. i understand their GT coin income is way higher than mine and i also understand as a non vip im not "supposed" to constantly destroy top vips. im currently at 812k power just not enough to make top 50 on server 105. as a non vip im pretty high up there on my server. of course not every non vip or even vips ever reach this mark but as long as i reach it it means its possible right?

    sure u might think im a masochist for being non vip but thats definitely not the reason lol. unless a game requires me to actually buy it i never spend money on my games, thats just wat im used to and it definitely feels more rewarding. think of it this way, when a vip 1 beats a vip 15 no big deal theyre both vip no one knows how much they spent, but when a non vip beats a vip it seems more surprising. even if someone gave me free money to upgrade to a vip 1,2,3,4 i wouldnt do it cause ill lose my nice black border around my portrait, makes me more special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uh123abcd View Post
    its not a bad idea but wat would the fair ratio be for vip 9 and under vs vip 10 and above?
    if 1000 crusade = 10 GT u end up with 25-50 GT coins a day people will complain too low
    if 1000 crusade = 100 GT u end up with 250-500 GT coins a day vip 10+ will get 5 shards a day thats too much
    gotta meet somewhere in the middle but still a tough ratio to make fair
    I assume you're referring to the 2nd crusade vip 10s get, you don't get double dragon coins just gold.

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    Just make heros 6*/7* for 250ss/500ss. Problem solved. So many players are waiting for this. Level cap has been raised a few times promotion level a few times wht not * level. 6*/7* needs to happen before it reaches satuaration point where the introduction of 6*/7* is where everyone has so much currency that they immediately get 6/7*

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    2nd crusade doesn't give you dragon coins, only gold and items.

    Assuming you get 2500-3000 coins every day, you could convert them to 250 GT coins, that would be 5 shards every two days, I think it's acceptable. Yet I think it's still too easy compared to the hell it is now. I'd say that being able to convert anything into 100 GT coins a day is the max we could hope with Ucool.

    You could also imagine a market between all coins, similar to the heroes camp marketplace, with decreasing conversion rates, Ucool could even add a gem tax for every daily conversion to compensate (first free, second 10 gems, then 20, 50, etc). You just need to be smart, but Ucool developers are too lazy or greedy to think logically.

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