Thoughts on heroes at level 90

[terryken]

very informative. thanks for the effort

[Herokomodo]

My server is full of very high vip players. Panda cc doesn't work ((

I dont think in this game vip heroes has nothing to do in arena. All of the beast in arena can be get by any1.

[Thecasualoblivion]

My server is full of very high vip players. Panda cc doesn't work ((

Also, out of curiosity, what is your definition of Panda CC? Mine is a base of Panda, DV, and VS with the last two slots variable, with Shadowleaf, Silencer, CW, Mystic, OC, FD, EB, AS and maybe others as possibilities. I think Panda DV CW VS Shadowleaf is the one I use the most.

[glitteringlust]

Wm work best again saper and wc.
I rarely throw sapper and wc as tank when versusing WM team in ga

[Cyraph]

The main idea is to create first team in such manner, that to counter it the opponent would need to use those same anchoring cards he would need to counter your 2nd and 3rd team.

And it's doable, no doubt.

You only need to win two, and that only takes 10 heroes. I have about thirty heroes with enough gear and stars for Grand Arena, the math is against you.

I agree with tco.
There is, in the current meta, no way to remain in the top10 with a 'perfect' defense - assuming there's still competition of course! Not talking about dead servers with just a handful active (and strong) players left.

If your enemy knows your three teams -> he can always attack with counter-teams and will win. As tco mentions the challenger only needs two victorys.

If it is your goal to get as many coins as possible, it all comes down to the willingness of spending gems for more trys or even resetting the timer when close to 9pm.

That's my experience on server 29.

[Cenarsaz]

Also, out of curiosity, what is your definition of Panda CC? Mine is a base of Panda, DV, and VS with the last two slots variable, with Shadowleaf, Silencer, CW, Mystic, OC, FD, EB, AS and maybe others as possibilities. I think Panda DV CW VS Shadowleaf is the one I use the most.

Yep, I just pref EB, not CW, rest is same.

[Cenarsaz]

I dont think in this game vip heroes has nothing to do in arena. All of the beast in arena can be get by any1.

Both tanks from the last month vip11 chests are awesome at 5* full orange.

[Cenarsaz]

Or from the month before, last month there were commander and WD, right?

[tonyvuknome]

Yeah defending is impossible at endgame. Especially normal arena. I get rank 1 and when i wake up rank 40 to 100 depending on luck

[Thecasualoblivion]

Yeah defending is impossible at endgame. Especially normal arena. I get rank 1 and when i wake up rank 40 to 100 depending on luck

It's going to get much worse. Right now mixed Admiral teams hold up somewhat well in arena. The veterans with deep rosters can beat them but the average player doesn't have the heroes to attack them consistently. I've only been able to beat mixed Admiral teams better than 60% using heroes like Phoenix, Hidden Needle and Lunar Guardian, people who don't have those are stuck fielding their own mixed Admiral team if they have Admiral, or I don't know what if they don't. I was running an idiosyncratic VW/EB team with Phoenix and winning 60-70% vs admiral. I'm better than 80% with my Hidden Needle team now. I haven't seen a 90%+ counter yet.

As more people build these heroes nobody is going to be safe.

[Phate999]

I've been seeing you praising LG a lot lately. If I have SL, why would I want her?

Just a few weeks ago you were debating if Admiral or IH should be the third tank after Panda and WC. Now it's admiral all the way? #1? What changed.

[Thecasualoblivion]

I've been seeing you praising LG a lot lately. If I have SL, why would I want her?

Just a few weeks ago you were debating if Admiral or IH should be the third tank after Panda and WC. Now it's admiral all the way? #1? What changed.

SL and LG have different uses. SL is all around utility: medium damage, whole team silence, and team physical buff. LG's purpose is to push back row damage. She not only buffs physical like SL, she also attacks the back row herself. With Admiral tanking for squishy mages being common right now, attacking the back row is good strategy. Back when everybody was running pure physical teams with Panda out front with his drunk debuff and the whole team having piles of dodge, physical back row damage didnt work so good.

As for Admiral, the meta changed. At least on my server, the mixed Admiral team hadn't caught fire yet when I made those comments. At the time, Admiral teams weren't dominating the meta. That has changed, and my opinion changed with it.

[Phate999]

SL and LG have different uses. SL is all around utility: medium damage, whole team silence, and team physical buff. LG's purpose is to push back row damage. She not only buffs physical like SL, she also attacks the back row herself. With Admiral tanking for squishy mages being common right now, attacking the back row is good strategy. Back when everybody was running pure physical teams with Panda out front with his drunk debuff and the whole team having piles of dodge, physical back row damage didnt work so good.

As for Admiral, the meta changed. At least on my server, the mixed Admiral team hadn't caught fire yet when I made those comments. At the time, Admiral teams weren't dominating the meta. That has changed, and my opinion changed with it.

Cool, thanks for the info TCO.

[dark-angel]

Great thread, thank you for your effort "Thecasualoblivion"

[Ferico]

Great thread, thank you for your effort "Thecasualoblivion"

The usual teacher's pet is here.