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    How to Counter FD-AS team without VW?

    I'm currently at TL84 with maxed 5* WC, EB, Mystic, Comm, SL, AS, OC and 4* Mach, Sil, CW, VS. Right now I'm such a mess. I have no clue how to build a good team from these heroes. I especially have a tough time countering AS/FD combo. Any pro out there please give me some advice I'd greatly appreciate. Thanks in advance.

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    (AS+FD) are not a full team you need to write down the names of all five hero (team) that you have a problem with it so ppl can give you a 100% solution because if your enemy added one hero to his team this will change the whole battle

    Any way i will give you some advice about as+fd

    AS jumps to the highest int heroe so you would need a int 5* tank like
    Psychopath or WM so when your tank is the highest int hero in your team
    Then sapper will jump to fornt of your tank hi will die quickly

    If you didn't had int 5* tank
    Then use mid int hero but get sure
    He had a big health pool like Phonix
    So your Phonix won't die before AS
    Also he will gain much power, and add
    A single target hero with Phonix like
    fD to kill his sapper with two hits.

    As I said FD is a single target hero
    You cant stune him or use any control skill on him
    If he turned to a Dimond BUT you can give him fake targets
    So CW clones would make a big problem for FD they will keep him
    Busy enough with all those clones until you kill him also FD Magic resistance
    Is very low so attack him with magic aoe are magic brust to kill him.

    The best attack is when you use your experience to imagine how the battle
    Will going to be so you will choose the correct offensive team to win

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    Thanks Falcon, that's very helpful. People said use Magic team to counter FD, but when I use Magic Team AS will tear my team apart. That's why it's so hard for me to win against FD/AS combo. I guess with the heroes I have, there's nothing much that can do now. I will upgrade VW and CW now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinghe27 View Post
    Thanks Falcon, that's very helpful. People said use Magic team to counter FD, but when I use Magic Team AS will tear my team apart. That's why it's so hard for me to win against FD/AS combo. I guess with the heroes I have, there's nothing much that can do now. I will upgrade VW and CW now.
    You welcome but
    I am not sure if VW would work
    Because as+fd+tank are 3 fornt line what ever you put behind VW he will be eaten before your vw
    Come to the battle i will give you some heroes that will be good against them

    Magic is good as people said you also right about as kill your mage heroes
    So the key is your mage heroes use their magic before as jump

    DM would be prey cool she will silence The team 3skill
    Also her 2skill will deal some aoe damage

    FG 4skill will stune FD and make some damage
    And his 2skill will do pretty good aoe damage

    OC have a good aoe magic too

    FM reduce magic residents so she will make your magic hits
    Better

    I was searching for as/fd team in my server but i didn't found one with my
    Team lvl unfortunately

    Tell your guild mate to send you
    A duel and practice until you counter it
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    I try IH EB DM CW Mystic. or copy the same same set up as the opponent... if you got same power the best thing you can do is put your hand together and pray for more crit...

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    VW team beats the meta AS+FD+VS team because VW groups them all together for FM US killing almost everyone then EB clearing the stragglers

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    I usually get AS+FD+Tank team but -CW with VW+EB+OC+PX+Mystic if they are about my team level.
    CW in the opponent team with the above setup can create problems with OC and PX

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    Maybe that one well help you

    But I used VW to kickoff sapper after his jump

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    Try using a WC-TS-Silencer Core Team (With Casters behind them like Mystic/Mach). Silencer can make a short work of Sapper and TS can parallel FD's lifesteal with constant buffs too. Mystic's and Mach's ulti are your key in killing FD.

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    CW/SL/WC/EB/VS. Don't have VS bloody eye enchanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizza View Post
    CW/SL/WC/EB/VS. Don't have VS bloody eye enchanted.
    so who does enemy AS follow in this case? EB?

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    Yep. Should be followed promptly with a stun and beatdown in front lines.
    Edit: don't know why OP is struggling so much. EB and CW are natural counters for FD and AS (FD more).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rizza View Post
    Yep. Should be followed promptly with a stun and beatdown in front lines.
    Edit: don't know why OP is struggling so much. EB and CW are natural counters for FD and AS (FD more).
    I've been testing EB/AS/LG/VS + either WC or IH lineups where enemy AS jumps to my AS and gets hit by EB PS. Promising but still inconclusive as my EB is only 3*

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    Yeah I do a similar lineup, but with my FD as highest int. As just cries as my FD becomes a kinslayer.
    Obviously depends on their other 3 heroes. I do this all the time for silly people in GA with their AS team visible.

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    Dont promote fd to orange 1st, he have highest int later than commando p+4
    50-80 difference int
    Meh

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