Crusade match making is terrible

[Tiêu Lĩnh Vu]

Retreat is designed by both Chinese game and this game, for Crusade. That means Crusade is designed to be completed. (because it allows people try again & again till successful)

If everyone can throw in random heroes and expect victory, we should not talk too much about what is called 'strategy' because people don't need that to clear Crusade. Like cleaning toilet (everyone can do without learning anything), if you need a 4 years diploma degree to do that job, you should not tell people about that.

You're so funny ) ) )
I think most player can finish 15 stages of crusade. If you can not then look back to which hero you have in hand, do they strong enough, do they same level as your team level, do they have regen HP skill (for hard mode) such as Death Knight or Death Mage and if you don't, pls do not blame anyone.
I saw a lot of player try to increase team level too much, 3 or 4 greater than here's level, then apparently you will get trouble to clear 15 crusade stages.

[Tiêu Lĩnh Vu]

Crusade teams you face are definitely based off your total team power or an average of all your crusade eligible heroes.

I found this out a while ago when I leveled 10 different characters up in the same day. The crusade teams I faced got significantly harder that day.

A perfect way to prove it and make your crusade easier is to:

1-get a bunch of new heroes, lower stars is better

2-level them to the minimum crusade level (30 I think)

3-watch as the teams you face get easier the more low levels you have.

I'll give a try on this, thanks mate. I faced against of my own team a few time, most at stage 10 or 12, which means you have to fight against other team stronger than your team from stage 12 and beyond

[FluffyBunny]

Crusade teams you face are definitely based off your total team power or an average of all your crusade eligible heroes.

I found this out a while ago when I leveled 10 different characters up in the same day. The crusade teams I faced got significantly harder that day.

A perfect way to prove it and make your crusade easier is to:

1-get a bunch of new heroes, lower stars is better

2-level them to the minimum crusade level (30 I think)

3-watch as the teams you face get easier the more low levels you have.

If this works I may have to kiss you

[Wutzgood]

Lol it will work. I'm one of those people who is leveling 45+ heroes together and I watch how it effects my crusade battles.

If you level too many heroes up at once expect it to get harder. If you add a lot of low level heroes it will get easier.

[bin]

Crusade teams you face are definitely based off your total team power or an average of all your crusade eligible heroes.

I found this out a while ago when I leveled 10 different characters up in the same day. The crusade teams I faced got significantly harder that day.

A perfect way to prove it and make your crusade easier is to:

1-get a bunch of new heroes, lower stars is better

2-level them to the minimum crusade level (30 I think)

3-watch as the teams you face get easier the more low levels you have.

Not only that won't work, you just make your Crusade harder.

NO WAY you could make your Crusade easier in 1 or 2 days BY YOURSELF. Since Crusade base on Total heroes Power ranking, all you have to do is stop upgrading, leveling your heroes and wait for other people surpass you in Total power ranking. When your rank lower, your opponents are also weaker because Crusade algorithm pick those equivalent to your current rank.

[bin]

For new players, the near-perfect way to gain more benefits from that is only focus on 5 heroes to compete Arena & Chaplain & DM/DK for Crusade (7 heroes in total). First you could compete Arena to get more gems, arena coins and Second you could complete Crusade as well (because you only build 7 heroes, your total power ranking is much lower than those build many heroes).

[Tiêu Lĩnh Vu]

For new players, the near-perfect way to gain more benefits from that is only focus on 5 heroes to compete Arena & Chaplain & DM/DK for Crusade (7 heroes in total). First you could compete Arena to get more gems, arena coins and Second you could complete Crusade as well (because you only build 7 heroes, your total power ranking is much lower than those build many heroes).

The problem is how to get DK and DM, and even you have both of them, you dont have heroes AoE to help you out of trouble in Crusade and a few tank will make you more trouble than ever.
Good suggestion to anyone, try to get DK asap, DK is king of crusade hard mode even DM can not compete.
Then try to get more star for Phoenix, Com, Frost Mage, Mystic using Crusade coin.
Using Phoenix on stage that you can not get through without losing hero.
Using Frost Mage on stage that your component have 2 or 3 tanks, wait until all tanker get close together then using util.

[Wutzgood]

Not only that won't work, you just make your Crusade harder.

NO WAY you could make your Crusade easier in 1 or 2 days BY YOURSELF. Since Crusade base on Total heroes Power ranking, all you have to do is stop upgrading, leveling your heroes and wait for other people surpass you in Total power ranking. When your rank lower, your opponents are also weaker because Crusade algorithm pick those equivalent to your current rank.

Do you have the exact way it's calculated. Cause I level 40 characters up at the same time and I've seen it get easier when I add a bunch of lower levels. It also get much harder if you level up too many guys at once.

From what I've seen it won't get harder if you don't level your highest characters up while doing this. Crusade opponents won't go much higher than your highest heros level.

By keeping all my heroes between levels 55 and 77, my opponents start at level 55 and go up to 78-79 by the end of crusade.

[bin]

Do you have the exact way it's calculated. Cause I level 40 characters up at the same time and I've seen it get easier when I add a bunch of lower levels. It also get much harder if you level up too many guys at once.

From what I've seen it won't get harder if you don't level your highest characters up while doing this. Crusade opponents won't go much higher than your highest heros level.

By keeping all my heroes between levels 55 and 77, my opponents start at level 55 and go up to 78-79 by the end of crusade.

Everyone at lvl 80- will never have enough exp salves to level up more than 10 heroes to a decent level (unless you buy a lot cheese by gems). Level up 40 heroes at lvl 77 ??? all crap.

It will take you 4+ months to reach to my current level. As I said before, believe me or not is your own choice. I won't care since I got no benefits from that.

[plenyun]

I also think Crusade Match-Making based on Total Team Power. Not just your top 5. It happened many times back before hard crusade was implemented whenever I level a new hero from 1 to max level.

What I can say is Hard mode meant to be hard. If its too hard you can always go back to normal mode. And luckily we do have "Retreat" function. It wasn't implemented back in the day when i started on server 2. So back then if I wrongly timed my ult, i'd had a hard time clearing crusade. Just use the heroes that many player had mentioned (Those 7 heroes). don't start focusing so much on grand arena if you don't have the luck & $$$ to sync with it.

Now I have about 15-20 heroes ready for crusade at 90. I always fill their energy up. Most of the time I ended up with DK, FM, DB, CHAP and one of (DM, VS, OC, AS and etc). Hard mode crusade take times to clear so don't rush into it and ended up with low hp and energy. The outcome of the battle isn't always the same. Do use retreat function at your disposal. My point is don't bite more than you can chew. When you have your resources ready for next heroes, feel free to up them. I remember throughout my journey from level 1 to 50ish. At the beginning I only focus 5-7 Heroes, And I'll add more as I have extra resources at my disposal. As you progress then you will have more hero.

[plenyun]

For new players, the near-perfect way to gain more benefits from that is only focus on 5 heroes to compete Arena & Chaplain & DM/DK for Crusade (7 heroes in total). First you could compete Arena to get more gems, arena coins and Second you could complete Crusade as well (because you only build 7 heroes, your total power ranking is much lower than those build many heroes).

This is what I would do exactly if I have to start on new server. Can't go wrong with this.

[gracelau21]

it is tough to argue on what basis that crusade match making is based on. since everybody is only based on their own experience here. general rule of thumb, get about 10-15 heroes (consist of key crusade heroes e.g. DM) up to you team level (which you feel comfortable on using them). charge their US up at the beginning stage. strategize a bit on they method you play with. it should be fine.

[Gaudy75]

So in other words buy buy buy your way to success !

[kaozzzz]

Buying your way to success is overrated, I have never bought anything and are doing very well. Level 87 have maximized at least 15 heroes to where I want them. Its all about the right strategy.

[zissop]

For all saying that crusade difficulty is based on total team power, how do you know it? Do you have any proof or just suspect it by your observations?

I believe that is somehow more complicated. For example a combination of all heroes power, top 5 heroes power and top 15 heroes power. I wouldn't be suprised if different heroes you own have different weights that affects the difficulty. From a developer point of view a more complicated algorithm will be better and more robust so i believe they took their time, made the maths and implemented an algorithm much much better that just "total heroes power".

It will be nice if an admin can comment on this.