Agamerjes's Guide to HC Life, Universe, and Everything

[amoy_kimchi]

Is it ok to bypass IH? My current TL is 69 and I am using WC and SO as my tanks in my 2 grand arena teams and all 10 are at TL. I am still working on Panda 55/80 to replace SO. Is it a mistake not getting IH at all? My goal is to stay around top 50 ranking.

[sharvael]

I think you over rated admiral so much.. every hero might be helpfull as long as you know the sequence both you and your enemies skill casted.. we all know that reset the trial didnt means try the same game but change the sequence and so on. I don't think if im using admiral it will be win win solution for the girl trial since I've been seen my friend using her at 80 and didnt come out a good result

[Livingmore]

Balance is the most important thing that keeps a game alive, imo. If a hero performs better than another in one aspect of the game, there MUST be another aspect where he/she performs worse.

/anyways, when it comes down to Admiral. I would like to see her tidebringer having half screen aoe in front of her.

[AyameNoop]

Good stuff. I welcome folks to add their own tips to this thread. Share the experiences! I am going to single out SL for one comment though. Early-mid game, she is greatness, for all the reasons you mentioned, but end game she dwindles. If you are 80+, think back over the last few days. How often have you encountered old Shadows in Arena, GA, or even Booty Caves or Crusade? Less than 5, I bet. Pity a hero so strong out of the gate falls off the map.

I think you got it the wrong way round. Early game she's outclassed by LM and Emberstar. After purple she becomes better because of her PS.

If you are 80+, think back over the last few days. How often have you encountered old Shadows in Arena, GA, or even Booty Caves or Crusade? Less than 5, I bet. Pity a hero so strong out of the gate falls off the map.

Arena/Booty Caves -> I will see her at LEAST once every 2 teams I fight
Crusade -> Probably at LEAST once every 3 games

[Agamerjes]

Is it ok to bypass IH? My current TL is 69 and I am using WC and SO as my tanks in my 2 grand arena teams and all 10 are at TL. I am still working on Panda 55/80 to replace SO. Is it a mistake not getting IH at all? My goal is to stay around top 50 ranking.

Yeah, you can skip any hero you want. WC is one of the most solid tanks to use in the long haul. Not so certain about SO, I want to see more about his upcoming legendary skill to really give him any bump besides his current raid utility. As far as Arena is concerned, IH doesn't really mesh well with AS, so he is often downgraded in the whole "best PvP tank" debate.

[Agamerjes]

I think you over rated admiral so much.. every hero might be helpfull as long as you know the sequence both you and your enemies skill casted.. we all know that reset the trial didnt means try the same game but change the sequence and so on. I don't think if im using admiral it will be win win solution for the girl trial since I've been seen my friend using her at 80 and didnt come out a good result

My Admiral love comes from her performance at 90, when her rather large health pool and legendary skill comes into play. Prior to 90, the tank pool is a bit muddier. Far as the trials are concerned, I don't consider her a must. Clearly people are beating 5/6 without her, usually with reset method. I do believe she makes it "easier", since a solid tank makes most things easier and the girl tanks are a wide selection of "1".

[Agamerjes]

I think you got it the wrong way round. Early game she's outclassed by LM and Emberstar. After purple she becomes better because of her PS.



Arena/Booty Caves -> I will see her at LEAST once every 2 teams I fight
Crusade -> Probably at LEAST once every 3 games

Straight damage? Yeah, she is outdone by Emberstar and LM early game. Take into consideration the slowing ice arrow and she is one of the easiest "silence" heroes to get, and she rises above them in my eyes. To be fair, I am a huge lover of hero utility. A "anyone can do damage, what else you got?" view.

Must be a server thing, because the 3 servers I track, I see her maybe 2 times a day in Booty caves and never in Crusade. Granted all 3 servers are "newer". Corvus (58) being the oldest server I play on. The poster that quote was directed agreed with it, so at least I know it isn't just me.

P.S. Sorry for 3+ posts back to back folks, I wasn't home yesterday to reply to anything. Playing catch-up.

[Sana]

Great guide, you've already helped me a lot in that 1-50 guide, glad to see you have one here. Per your advice, I sold all my xp potions, I was able to get 1 whole skill upgrade for my level 62 Deathgore's ultimate ^.^

[crazypary]

Yeah, you can skip any hero you want. WC is one of the most solid tanks to use in the long haul. Not so certain about SO, I want to see more about his upcoming legendary skill to really give him any bump besides his current raid utility. As far as Arena is concerned, IH doesn't really mesh well with AS, so he is often downgraded in the whole "best PvP tank" debate.

I am lvl 67 and skip hoof on GA
SO need shaman so bad to sustain her position in front

[Dark_Seraphim]

well for your level SO is still viable but later on he really falls off, you should consider getting IH later on or get better tanks than SO. Your options for tank are IH, Panda or Admiral.

[Halcyon]

Agamerjes or Ayame can you or anyone else help me with dilemma:
I am TL60. My only good tanks are SK, DK, and WC. I do have low level 2* brute, 2*DV, and 3* admiral. I am going skipping 5* OC in arena shop to go for Panda. I just got GA shop open and was going to get EB to 3* (25/50) and then I don't know what I should go for next... either do FD from zero, get IH from zero, or when should I start upgrading 3*DM (40/100)? I do have other good dps (3*NA, CW, TS), but FD is a beast...

[Agamerjes]

Agamerjes or Ayame can you or anyone else help me with dilemma:
I am TL60. My only good tanks are SK, DK, and WC. I do have low level 2* brute, 2*DV, and 3* admiral. I am going skipping 5* OC in arena shop to go for Panda. I just got GA shop open and was going to get EB to 3* (25/50) and then I don't know what I should go for next... either do FD from zero, get IH from zero, or when should I start upgrading 3*DM (40/100)? I do have other good dps (3*NA, CW, TS), but FD is a beast...

As much as people put him down, DK is a solid placeholder tank. Between DK and WC, you should be alright in the tanking department until you unlock your long term goal tank(s). Honestly, DK works well as the backup tank to WC because DK makes up for WC's main weakness through most levels: low magic resistance. Weird fact, I have been using my DK in many of my temple invites because, even 5 levels lower than my WC, he performs better against the magic mob teams.

Far as shops are concerned... You don't need panda AND IH, especially if you already have a WC (and maybe admiral). Pick one or the other. It will make planning out your shop buys a lot easier if you settle on your long term goals early. IMO, EB takes a back seat to both FD and DM in the priority department. IF DM is 3*, no harm in investing in FD, but that is mostly a personal preference if you want a new hero to gear or max *s on current one.

(General note: I will be updating the guide with hardmode crusade and temple sections soon. Today has been a bit chaotic, but I'll get there!)

[Syd77]

Hi all,

Is there a difference between Shadowleaves Purple skill and LG purple skill? One it says "Increase Attack Power" and the other "increase Physical attack"...Is Shadows passive better because it adds damage to both Physical and magic attacks? Thanks!

[Agamerjes]

Hi all,

Is there a difference between Shadowleaves Purple skill and LG purple skill? One it says "Increase Attack Power" and the other "increase Physical attack"...Is Shadows passive better because it adds damage to both Physical and magic attacks? Thanks!

I believe you answered your own question. SL's "Forest Rage" is, as far as I know, an overall damage increase, while LG's "Chosen of Boaz" only applies to physical damage.

[Syd77]

Thanks Agamerjes, thats what I supposed but no harm in asking

I think im keeping my LG on my physical team then and LS to support a mixed team at GA.

Happy gaming to all!