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    [Guide] Heroes with great utility

    1.Commando (Comm) - support,cc - great initial buff,arguably the only unit you can use all the way
    Good from: Green promotion onwards
    Ease of farming *****(crusades,b.chests)
    Crusade(normal) ***
    Crusade(Hard) ***
    Trials *****(Valk)
    Outland *
    Raids ***
    P+4 arena rating *****

    2.War chief(WC) - tank/dps - Great revival skill and dps, can use almost all the way after purple
    Good from: Purple promotion onwards
    Ease of farming **(3 elite maps)
    Crusade(normal) *
    Crusade(Hard) *
    Trials ****
    Outland ***(Raged)
    Raids ****
    P+4 arena rating ****

    3.Death mage(DM) - dps,cc,crusade/trial tank - DPS mage that can tank PvE
    Good from: Purple promotion onwards
    Ease of farming **(G.arena)
    Crusade(normal) *****
    Crusade(Hard) *****
    Trials *****(Valk,P.immune)
    Outland ***(Raged)
    Raids ***,*****(Ch9,Ch14 boss)
    P+4 arena rating **

    4.Mystic - support,cc - Blind skill to counter physical heroes, magic buff makes him a core mage team member
    Good from: Purple promotion onwards
    Ease of farming *****(crusades,b.chests)
    Crusade(normal) ****
    Crusade(Hard) ****
    Trials ****(P.immune)
    Outland **(Raged),***(Cave)
    Raids *
    P+4 arena rating ***(US issues currently, otherwise ****)

    5.Frost Mage(FM) - support - Best/only magic team debuffer, high energy regen
    Good from: Purple promotion onwards
    Ease of farming ****(crusades)
    Crusade(normal) ****
    Crusade(Hard) ***
    Trials ****(P.immune,ladies)
    Outland *****(Cave)
    Raids *,****(Ch9 boss)
    P+4 arena rating **(very weak to sapper,usually highest INT but not enough HP/atk to defend)

    6.Chaplain(Chap) - healer - Best healer in game
    Good from: Best healer all the way
    Ease of farming ****(Elite Maps,b.chests)
    Crusade(normal) ****
    Crusade(Hard) *****
    Trials **(Optional, can use for all)
    Outland *****(Raged),***(Phoenix),**(Robo)
    Raids *
    P+4 arena rating *

    7.Cloud walker(CW) - dps - Well rounded hero, can use in almost all areas of the game,half-tanker/distractor with clones
    Good from: Purple onwards
    Ease of farming **(G.arena)
    Crusade(normal) **
    Crusade(Hard) ***
    Trials *****(M.immune)
    Outland *****(Raged),*****(Phoenix)
    Raids ****
    P+4 arena rating ****

    8.Old Curse(OC) - dps - Great aoe magic dps with US that can waste enemies US,great from lower levels up
    Good from: Green promotion onwards
    Ease of farming *(Arena)
    Crusade(normal) *****
    Crusade(Hard) ****
    Trials ****(P.immune)
    Outland ***(Robo),*****(Flyers)
    Raids *
    P+4 arena rating ****

    9.Vengence Spirit(VS) - dps - Best physical aoe dps with team CC US, great at higher levels
    Good from: 70+
    Ease of farming **(elite maps)
    Crusade(normal) **
    Crusade(Hard) *
    Trials ****(M.immune,valk)
    Outland *
    Raids *****(non-boss stages)
    P+4 arena rating *****

    10.Shadow Leaves(SL) - dps,cc - Well rounded dps, with cc,attack aura and good damage
    Good from: Purple promotion onwards
    Ease of farming ****(Elite Maps,b.chests)
    Crusade(normal) *
    Crusade(Hard) *
    Trials ***(P.immune,ladies)
    Outland *****(Phoenix)
    Raids *****
    P+4 arena rating *****

    11.Drunken Master(Panda) - dps,cc,tank - Excellent tank with cc,formation compression and dps
    Good from: 70+, get 4*/5* OC first
    Ease of farming *(arena)
    Crusade(normal) *
    Crusade(Hard) *
    Trials ****(M.immune)
    Outland *****(Phoenix),***(Raged)
    Raids *****
    P+4 arena rating *****

    12.Arcane Sapper(AS) - dps - Unique tactical dps, must have for arena at 73+
    Good from: 73+
    Ease of farming *(guild shop)
    Crusade(normal) *
    Crusade(Hard) **
    Trials ****(M.immune)
    Outland *
    Raids ****
    P+4 arena rating *****

    13.Psychopath - tank - Lucked based high INT tank, can do up to 4x repeats
    Good from: 80+
    Ease of farming **(late elite maps,b.chest)
    Crusade(normal) *
    Crusade(Hard) *
    Trials *
    Outland *****(Caves),*****(Robo)
    Raids *
    P+4 arena rating **

    14.Machinist - dps - Highest single target magic dps
    Good from: 80+
    Ease of farming ***(elite maps,bronze chest)
    Crusade(normal) ***
    Crusade(Hard) ***
    Trials ****(P.immune)
    Outland *****(Caves)
    Raids **,*****(Ch9 boss)
    P+4 arena rating ***(Weak to sapper teams,usually highest INT,still can somewhat counter with US)

    15.Silencer(Sil) - dps,cc - True damage dealer,energy drain and CC
    Good from: 80+
    Ease of farming *(elite maps)
    Crusade(normal) ***
    Crusade(Hard) ***
    Trials ***(M.immune)
    Outland *****(Robo)
    Raids *,*****(Ch9,11 boss)
    P+4 arena rating **

    16.Poison One(PO) - dps - High single target DoT DPS, PvE hero
    Good from: Get only after you 4/5* your panda/OC
    Ease of farming *(arena)
    Crusade(normal) *
    Crusade(Hard) *
    Trials *
    Outland *****(Flyers),*****(Robo)
    Raids ****(Boss stages)
    P+4 arena rating *

    Units are not in order of how good they are.
    For the arena ratings, having ***** doesn't mean its the best, it just means its overall performance,
    there are many variables in arena not to mention the RNG(randomness).

    These are all based on my experience with using these heroes.
    Please share any experience you have on these and other heroes you think have great utility.

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    Generic cookie cutter teams
    Arena(50+ to 70+) : WC - OC - LG - Comm - SL
    Arena(80+ to 87+) : Panda - AS - VS - Comm - SL
    Arena sapper counter(70+) : Panda - AS - OC(high INT) - Comm - Mystic

    Crusade team(Normal mode) : DM - OC - FM - Chap/Comm - Mystic

    Exp time rift V+: Panda - Panda - DM - FM - Chap - Mystic
    Gold time rift V+: Panda - AS - VS - Comm - SL

    Magic immune trials V+: Panda - WC - CW - Silencer - SL
    Physical immune trials V+: WC - DM - FM - Machinist - Mystic
    Ladies/Valkyrie trials V+: VS - DM - FM - Comm - SL

    Team formations sharing based on encountered arena/grand arena teams (87+)
    Pure Physical team(FD): WC-FD-AS-VS-Comm, High INT AS/Comm
    Triple front-line team: WC-Panda-AS-VS-Comm, High INT AS/Comm
    High INT front-line team: Admiral/DV-panda-VS-comm-SL, good for killing sapper fast
    Pure mage team: IH-OC-FM-Machinist-Mystic,weak against sapper but good attacking/hidden GA team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomies View Post
    You should add ***** on Machinist for guild raid 13 boss stage, invaluable for breaking the shield.
    You don't need Mac to break the shield but you definitely need him in the outland portal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomies View Post
    So what else do you use? Death Mage and what?
    Lunar Guardian for example. But Machinist is super good for that boss, so a must use if you have him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomies View Post
    So what else do you use? Death Mage and what?
    LunGa, CLoWa, ShaLe, ArcSa, DeaMa

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    Quote Originally Posted by No-one View Post
    I use that team too, my record to the boss is 1.5 mil.

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    The idea is cool, even if I'd add stars for arena too.
    Besides, the way you describe farming difficulty is kinda weird: you give 5* to the easiest ones (comm) and low stars to the ones are more difficult. If I read "farming difficulty", I understand "how much difficult is to farm that hero", so I expect that a 5* farming difficulty hero is kinda impossible to obtain. That's not that intuitive.
    For the rest, good job.
    Your right, changed to "ease of farming" instead of "farming difficulty".
    I refer not to add stars for arena because usefulness of heroes change with levels,new heroes/counters all the time so I think thats harder to do accurate ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomies View Post
    What is your damage record and team lvl with that?
    Tl is 85, dmg is around 1.6 mil, no enchants at all, all 5* but CW, he's 4*, they are all around p+2/p+4, AS/CW are Orange

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    Hi guys,

    I have a question regarding my team. Since i cant make a thread yet, please dont get offended if i post it in here.

    My team level is 65, currently running for arena
    WC***-OC****-LG***-SL***-COM****

    I also have a VS*** and CW***. Please advise if it wise to replace someone with CW. And what point to switch VS in for OC?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by chom01 View Post
    Hi guys,

    I have a question regarding my team. Since i cant make a thread yet, please dont get offended if i post it in here.

    My team level is 65, currently running for arena
    WC***-OC****-LG***-SL***-COM****

    I also have a VS*** and CW***. Please advise if it wise to replace someone with CW. And what point to switch VS in for OC?

    Thanks
    VS for OC only when both are the same number off stars and after level 73.

    The answer for who to switch for CW can be found here

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    Quote Originally Posted by No-one View Post
    Ya, maybe you're right about arena, even if that's the most interesting part of the game in end-level. Maybe, since you wrote on first reply the cookie-cutter in mid levels, you could analyze only p4+ heroes in arena, based on your thoughts and experience.
    Added arena ratings for P+4

    Quote Originally Posted by chom01 View Post
    Hi guys,

    I have a question regarding my team. Since i cant make a thread yet, please dont get offended if i post it in here.

    My team level is 65, currently running for arena
    WC***-OC****-LG***-SL***-COM****

    I also have a VS*** and CW***. Please advise if it wise to replace someone with CW. And what point to switch VS in for OC?

    Thanks
    You can switch in VS for OC when she reaches 70+ 4*
    For your team,I think you can try replacing LG/SL with CW when he reaches 4*, should be good at getting enemy OC to fire his US in the wrong direction

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    Quote Originally Posted by AyameNoop View Post
    VS for OC only when both are the same number off stars and after level 73.

    The answer for who to switch for CW can be found here
    Thanks for the answer. Maybe i'm not being clear with my question.

    At LvL65 and running a cookie cutter team, is it wise to replace someone with CW? And please explain why or why not.

    One more question, by the time I get to 73, my AS will be 5*. How do you recommend a team with AS and CW. I dont have Panda.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleeplaz View Post
    Added arena ratings for P+4



    You can switch in VS for OC when she reaches 70+ 4*
    For your team,I think you can try replacing LG/SL with CW when he reaches 4*, should be good at getting enemy OC to fire his US in the wrong direction
    Thank you, i was thinking of replacing LG with CW at 73.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chom01 View Post
    Thanks for the answer. Maybe i'm not being clear with my question.

    At LvL65 and running a cookie cutter team, is it wise to replace someone with CW? And please explain why or why not.

    Thanks
    You can get the answer by testing out team comps in Booty caves. I spent quite a while running tests to get the team comps I'm using today. The guide will tell you who you should consider to replace for CW and what effect it will have on your team

    Quote Originally Posted by chom01 View Post
    One more question, by the time I get to 73, my AS will be 5*. How do you recommend a team with AS and CW. I dont have Panda.
    yes that will work, provided your team is set up correctly

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