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    Guild Ranks

    How are guilds ranked in the weekly guild ranks? Right now it looks like Member count and thus guild lvl is the only thing that matters, but if that is so how does it balance ties? Right now 3 guilds at 100 members and 1 at 99.

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    Hi the guilds are ranked mainly by the current level.

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    So how do you address ties in current lvl?

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    That would be by the create time of the guild.

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    This doesn't seem like a long term solution....perhaps a better solution would be to simply rank it by total influence of the guild? This way you can strive to get your members influence up while attacking the top guilds and bringing their influence down?
    And I still think that using the revenge button on the map war should allow you to help get your influence back. This would exclude people from being able to use alts to get influence back but would give people the ability to get it back. I did a poll on this a little while ago and nobody disagreed about it.

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    It works fine as it is. If a guild is able to upgrade & get to a level before another guild. Then the guild as a whole have worked for that rank. When more than 1 guild is on the same level, whatever guild has started the upgrade to the next level should be ranked higher than another guild that hasn't started the next upgrade or started it later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blade_9462799 View Post
    It works fine as it is. If a guild is able to upgrade & get to a level before another guild. Then the guild as a whole have worked for that rank. When more than 1 guild is on the same level, whatever guild has started the upgrade to the next level should be ranked higher than another guild that hasn't started the next upgrade or started it later.
    Blade that is not the way it works now. Raymond said it was the create time of the guild. So for example, currently Killers made it to lvl 5 right after COE, Last week they came in second. then heavy tek and avengers made it to lvl 5. However since Heavytek and avengers created their guilds before Killers, killers is now 4th. So in other words for the rest of the server the best killers will be able to do is to overcome heavytek for a couple days. The only chance anybody else really has is for COE, Heavy Tek or Avengers to dissolve the alliance. So there really is no competition no ability to beat them unless they fold.
    And the way you are proposing means if i get to lvl 5 first I will win the weekly bonus for at least the next 5 weeks, it doesn't matter what happens in the game. Why have a weekly reward when it is guaranteed? (it takes 36 days to go from lvl 5 to lvl 6 no way to speed that up.)
    But just giving it to who ever started their guild first on the server seems to take away the competition.

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    So if a guild was created later than another & upgraded first, they would win the weekly rank for 1 week. Then if the guild that had been created first upgrades to the same level will win the rank for the rest of the time it takes for thew upgrade? That one of the more stupid idea I have heard of. If a guild was created before another, then all it needs to do is upgrade to the same level as the guild ahead of it & they will get the top spot. Since the upgrade times on the guilds blows out to months. So if a guild upgrades to a point ahead of anyone else, they may, or may not be rewarded for it. If a guild that was created before it upgrades to the same level before the rank ends. All that does is reward a guild for being created first for the majority of the time, regardless of when they upgrade, as long as the catch up. A 4 year old would be able to see the flaw in that logic.

    All the guilds need to be ranked on are the level of the guild & the time left on the next upgrade. If a guild is ranked on being made before another, then what have they done other than dumb luck creating that guild. To win the ranks for the majority of the time & they don't even need to hurry & upgrade as soon as they can. They'll will be handed they top rank just for catching up to another guild that was able to upgrade faster than them.

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    This is one of the more boneheaded ideas they have come up with. And that says A LOT! lol

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    It should absolutely be determined by which guild starts and completes the next upgrade first. Nothing else makes any sense at all.

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    Factoring in influence into the guild ranks is just as stupid. All that will do is stop guilds being loyal to it's members that can't play as much as others. Boot them & keep bringing in new members that are at the highest level cities. Also if a member gets hit & drops a lot of influence, they may as well be booted from the guild too if it means dropping a rank. Regardless of if those players have invested a lot more into the guild than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blade_9462799 View Post
    Factoring in influence into the guild ranks is just as stupid. All that will do is stop guilds being loyal to it's members that can't play as much as others. Boot them & keep bringing in new members that are at the highest level cities. Also if a member gets hit & drops a lot of influence, they may as well be booted from the guild too if it means dropping a rank. Regardless of if those players have invested a lot more into the guild than others.
    Wow, sounds like you have been in some guilds with some crappy leadership! Now your influence bounces back to full in about 10 days, so a lot less likely that your guild would boot you and bring in somebody else.
    and IMO if you aren't an active member you probably shouldn't be part of a top 3 guild...just saying
    If you are just going to reward guilds for being one of the first 3 to make it to a guild rank, why have it be a weekly contest that won't matter but for very often? just have a contest to the first three guilds that can make it to each lvl and be done with it. What is the point of the weekly thing?
    So I don't know what the top lvl is for guild rank but once the top 3 teams get there, they will get the gem bonus every week? even if they go to 1 member? Seems pretty stupid to me.

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    Then the rank should be changed from paying weekly to monthly or remove it completely from the ranks. Make a more elaborate way for guilds to upgrade, that takes less than a week. Who conned Evony into thinking this system was a good idea?

    If guild ranks were based on total influence alone or even enough for the ranks to be manipulated, then the obvious flaw in that is when the ranks are near ending. Other guilds simply need to start attacking the weaker members of a top guild to push them out of the ranks, just before the ranks timer ends. Then you'll have guilds sitting on top spot who won't receive a prize for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blade_9462799 View Post
    If guild ranks were based on total influence alone or even enough for the ranks to be manipulated, then the obvious flaw in that is when the ranks are near ending. Other guilds simply need to start attacking the weaker members of a top guild to push them out of the ranks, just before the ranks timer ends. Then you'll have guilds sitting on top spot who won't receive a prize for it.
    Exactly, then the top guild would have to attack the attacking guild to maintain the top spot this would create guild vs guild wars, it would be hard to maintain the top spot. You could make it a daily prize and give the top guild 3 gems, 2nd guild 2, third guild 1. that way it isn't the whole, 1 group held it for a week and lost it at the last hour.

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    No your missing the point, it's not about taking top spot, it's about stopping another guild from getting it. Lets take your guild, Heavytek, for instance. A smaller guild can start attacking you about 30 - 60 mins before the ranks end & push your guild out of the ranks. After the ranks end, it doesn't matter if they go back into top spot or not. Then just do the same thing when the timers are about to end. Under this idiotic idea a guild with as little as 20 members would really have more control over what guild gets top spot. Now if there were multiple guilds going after the top guild. They wouldn't stand a chance & it won't matter what that guild does to try & stop it.

    Then you also have to look at what happens to guilds that make agreements not to hit others. Then to 2 most important things that should be included into how the ranks work would be. Number of attacks made by the guild & the number of defences won.

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